suppliments?

[Sean24]

so being here in iraq and havin a shitload of time to do nothing i been going to the gym with one of my buddies for 2 hours 6 days a week, i started off at 225 and now im down to 196 i used to be MAD skinny but then started drinking and blew up like a balloon which really helped me in a way because i can stay big but not fat, ANYWAYS my question for the people who really workout what suppliments do you take? im taking THERMOGAIN by muscletech and then a cycle of THERMOSHRED, and its really working ive noticed increased stamina and muscle mass and ive only been using it 2 months, i started benching 170 and havent benched in 2 years and now im up to 210 once. my main question is has anyone used anything else BESIDES creatine to get good results? lemme know :bouncy:

[FlawlesS kolors]

i noticed big gains in animal stack and animal pack together

[LUCKY]

tribulas is good as it helps your body produce testosterone (spelling)

also protein helps with muscle recovery same as zinc.........


andro stack is good aswell but it is banned here in Australia (damn)

but the most important thing is your diet, everyones diet will be diffrent as peoples genetics are diffrent.... u just need one that will suit your needs..

[icecreamman]

deca and ara-test. but you can only get it in mexico and you have to shoot it up. Why dont you try that zyience stuff that all the UFC fighters take.

[fabes]

deca and ara-test. but you can only get it in mexico and you have to shoot it up. Why dont you try that zyience stuff that all the UFC fighters take.
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oh and it's called xyience

[LUCKY]

hahahah while ya at it take GH and sus250 hahaahh he was asking about suppliments not steroids.....

[fabes]

so being here in iraq and havin a shitload of time to do nothing i been going to the gym with one of my buddies for 2 hours 6 days a week, i started off at 225 and now im down to 196 i used to be MAD skinny but then started drinking and blew up like a balloon which really helped me in a way because i can stay big but not fat, ANYWAYS my question for the people who really workout what suppliments do you take? im taking THERMOGAIN by muscletech and then a cycle of THERMOSHRED, and its really working ive noticed increased stamina and muscle mass and ive only been using it 2 months, i started benching 170 and havent benched in 2 years and now im up to 210 once. my main question is has anyone used anything else BESIDES creatine to get good results? lemme know :bouncy:

if you are taking creatine, do not stay on it. Only use it when you hit a wall with strength. Then take creatine to get over that wall, then get off of it. I know a good work out that will increase your max bench A LOT and FAST.

Go two days a week for each week...EX: every monday and thursday

Week#1- 5 sets of 5 reps, use max weight. you shouldn't be able to do more then 5 reps w/ the weight you select. EX: 205 lbs

Week #2- do 5 sets of 4 reps, using 10 pounds more then in week 1. EX: use 205 in week 1 so go up to 215 for week 2.

Week #3- do 5 sets of 3 reps, again going 10 pounds heavier then in week 2. Ex: use 225 lbs this week.

Week #4- Do 5 sets of 2 reps, using 10 more pounds then previous week.

Week #5- max out. You should have added ATLEAST 30 LBS to your max if you follow it to a tee.

[fabes]

hahahah while ya at it take GH and sus250 hahaahh he was asking about suppliments not steroids.....

HAHAHA you guys are lucky down there, you all have the best gear around.

[LUCKY]

yeah there is good gear here but u pay top doller for it, and its all bought on the street so u never know if the shit is real, ive heard of alot of guys selling fake shit,

creatine is crazy stuff make sure u drink alot of water or u can dehydrate real easy and can cause liver failer.

[icecreamman]

hahahah while ya at it take GH and sus250 hahaahh he was asking about suppliments not steroids.....
haha, steroids are supplements right? I took that deca and ara-test for about 2 months and grew like crazy, its good shit. xyience shmyience

[LUCKY]

hahhaaha yeah i guess so its kinda like comparing alchol to shroomz both fuck u up but only one of them is legal hahahahah

deca is good shit

[fabes]

haha, steroids are supplements right? I took that deca and ara-test for about 2 months and grew like crazy, its good shit. xyience shmyience
if you don't know shit about gear then don't take it PERIOD! if you know someone that doesn't know shit about gear then don't tell the to take it/sell it to them. PERIOD!

[Joey D]

if you don't know shit about gear then don't take it PERIOD! if you know someone that doesn't know shit about gear then don't tell the to take it/sell it to them. PERIOD!


If you know so damn much about it.......

































Then Help me out.. I wanna do a cycle... :patriot:

[fabes]

If you know so damn much about it.......

































Then Help me out.. I wanna do a cycle... :patriot:

Hit me up on aim

[STARKS]

My boy used Cell tech, which is made by muscletech, shit worked wonders

[icecreamman]

if you don't know shit about gear then don't take it PERIOD! if you know someone that doesn't know shit about gear then don't tell the to take it/sell it to them. PERIOD!
gear? thats steroids right? never heard it called gear, but what do you need to know about them before you start to take them? I got the two bottles and a bunch of syringes, alcohal pads, and put it in my cheek, one day i would do the ara-test, then wait a day, then the next day do the deca. Is there a better way to do it? Cause i felt good and grew like crazy doin it that way.

[fabes]

gear? thats steroids right? never heard it called gear, but what do you need to know about them before you start to take them? I got the two bottles and a bunch of syringes, alcohal pads, and put it in my cheek, one day i would do the ara-test, then wait a day, then the next day do the deca. Is there a better way to do it? Cause i felt good and grew like crazy doin it that way.
there is so much you need to know. Like how many mg's you should put in your body, need to run test with deca and you have to run more mg's of test then deca so you don't get deca dick, Look up deca dick and you will understand y you want more test then deca, You have to know the half life of each gear. Gotta know the background of each product and what each one does. What about PCT? POST CYCLE TRAINING aka Anti-Estrogens like Nolvadex and Clomid, aka so you don't get bitch tits and you keep your gains. How to take them, how many mg's to take. What to eat so you don't get fat, I could keep going on and on. It's people like you that take the shit that has no clue how to, then get's bitch tits or fucks up your body. Hey better you then me. I know if I was going to try something out for the first time I would be doing a lot of research on it.

[icecreamman]

there is so much you need to know. Like how many mg's you should put in your body, need to run test with deca and you have to run more mg's of test then deca so you don't get deca dick, Look up deca dick and you will understand y you want more test then deca, You have to know the half life of each gear. Gotta know the background of each product and what each one does. What about PCT? POST CYCLE TRAINING aka Anti-Estrogens like Nolvadex and Clomid, aka so you don't get bitch tits and you keep your gains. How to take them, how many mg's to take. What to eat so you don't get fat, I could keep going on and on. It's people like you that take the shit that has no clue how to, then get's bitch tits or fucks up your body. Hey better you then me. I know if I was going to try something out for the first time I would be doing a lot of research on it.
I had a personal trainer that told me to fill up the needles to the "1" mark and use one or the other (deca or aratest) every other day. Eat lots of protein and basically eat everything I can since i was pretty skinny. and to just work one muscle group a day, like chest one day, legs the next, etc. guess i'm lucky i didnt get tities haha

[fabes]

I had a personal trainer that told me to fill up the needles to the "1" mark and use one or the other (deca or aratest) every other day. Eat lots of protein and basically eat everything I can since i was pretty skinny. and to just work one muscle group a day, like chest one day, legs the next, etc. guess i'm lucky i didnt get tities haha
how many mg where in a ml in the deca? Do you know Deca has a half life of 15 days? That means each shot is work for 15 days. Your first time using it and you shot each product up ever other day? Does your trainer know anything about gear? Do you still have the bottles laying around? If so post the mg/ml for me please.

[icecreamman]

how many mg where in a ml in the deca? Do you know Deca has a half life of 15 days? That means each shot is work for 15 days. Your first time using it and you shot each product up ever other day? Does your trainer know anything about gear? Do you still have the bottles laying around? If so post the mg/ml for me please.
no i shot for example the deca on monday then the aratest on wednsday then the deca again on friday. I think i still have the bottles. do doubt, you need to know your shit before you go fucking with roids.

[fabes]

no i shot for example the deca on monday then the aratest on wednsday then the deca again on friday. I think i still have the bottles. do doubt, you need to know your shit before you go fucking with roids.
well your trainer should of at least showed/told you all about the stuff you are messing with. Just hate hearing stories about people getting fucked up. Hell look at Rashad on TUF 2, he's used Gear. you can tell by his nipples (bitch tits)

[BIG-D]

I dont use any of that shit. Im not big on steriods. I just take 3 supplements: Whey Protein, Creatine Phosphate, and ZMA.....Nutrition is a big part of my plan too

[Sean24]

soooooo anyone know where to get some deca winnie V and andro

[fabes]

soooooo anyone know where to get some deca winnie V and andro
Your nearest street pharmacist

[Sean24]

if it was ONLY that easy

[fabes]

if it was ONLY that easy
ask around, you can get that shit over there


ROME (AP) - Italian police seized 215,000 doses of prohibited substances as they smashed a ring that supplied steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs to customers around the world, including American soldiers in Iraq, a police official said Monday.

The U.S. military in Iraq had no immediate comment, but the popularity of steroid abuse has long been discussed as American troops and contractors in Iraq work out in gyms set up in bases and even in the mirrored halls of one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces.

Joe Donahue, program director for the Vietnam Vets of America Foundation, who spent 16 months in Iraq - often lifting weights in the Green Zone gyms - said steroids were on offer for those who wanted them.

``I had them offered to me by an Iraqi guy who sure as hell looked like he was using them,'' Donahue said. ``There were guys I'm pretty sure were juicing, but not a lot of them.''


He said a pair of Iraqi bodybuilders known casually as ``the large brothers'' sold steroids and other supplements in the Green Zone building where he worked. ``I can say with no equivocation, I was offered steroids,'' Donahue told The Associated Press.


Private security contractors told AP that steroid use also is a problem among their employees because the drugs are readily available in Iraq - as easy as buying a soda from the local stores, according to one contractor.


The police investigation in Italy began after a post office in Trieste, in northeastern Italy, reported that U.S. postal authorities in Iraq returned hundreds of packets of steroids and other performance-enhancing drugs because they were improperly addressed, according to Mario Bo, head of the Trieste police department's criminal division.


He said authorities arrested two Slovenians last month when they raided an apartment in Trieste. Sasco Tacs, 30, and a 20-year-old woman, Vesna Milosevic, were charged with trafficking in prohibited substances.


The drugs had been ordered over the Internet, and Italian officials presume some reached their destinations, police said, adding that steroids were also sent to customers in Europe, North America and Australia. They estimated the ring may have had as many as 1,000 customers around the world.


Synthetic derivatives of testosterone, anabolic steroids are thought to enhance aggressiveness.


Steroids have serious side effects, encompassing both psychological disturbance and physical symptoms, such as the development of breasts in men, baldness and cancer, as well as major depression, mania and other mood problems.


Every war seems to have its drug of choice. German soldiers were said to have been given steroids during World War II to make them meaner. The stress of combat led to use of marijuana by some American soldiers fighting in Vietnam.


U.S. forces in Iraq and Afghanistan submit to regular drug tests but are not routinely tested for steroid use, according to a report in the military newspaper Stars and Stripes.


In Afghanistan, U.S. Col. James Yonts said: ``We do not issue steroids to soldiers for any reason, bodybuilding or whatever, other than for medical purposes. I'm not aware of any investigation or any problem of steroid use by soldiers in Afghanistan.''


Beefed up U.S. soldiers are a common sight in Iraq, where many work out using makeshift gym equipment near their sleeping quarters or in elaborate gyms at large bases such as in Tikrit, north of Baghdad.


Inside one of Saddam Hussein's former palaces on the sprawling Tikrit base, a mirror-walled gym rivaling many in the West is routinely packed with heaving soldiers pumping iron on bench presses, arm curls and other equipment.


Some soldiers have questioned how some of their more rippling fellow soldiers could have built up such bulk while in a war zone, suggesting that steroid use may have been taking place. But they had no independent confirmation to back up their suspicions.


Troops and some contractors receive mail at inexpensive domestic U.S. postal rates, allowing soldiers to order almost anything online. Packages mailed from home are one of the chief smuggling routes for alcohol, which the U.S. military prohibits its soldiers from drinking.


Bo, the Trieste police official, said authorities were ready to cooperate in any international investigation, but that they had not been approached by U.S. authorities.


The Italian newspaper Corriere della Sera said authorities believe the Slovenians received orders for the drugs on three Internet sites run by servers in Slovenia, Poland and Lithuania.


Italy has tough laws against the use of performance-enhancing drugs, with athletes risking prison terms if detected.


Medical writer Emma Ross in London and correspondents Jim Krane in Dubai, United Arab Emirates, Paul Garwood in Cairo and Dan Cooney in Kabul, Afghanistan, contributed to this report.



08/01/05 16:10


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[Sean24]

ya know its weird we do have some contractors from the ukaraine that are all kinds of jacked, hmmm maybe ill ask em...eh i donno if i trust them tho.

[fabes]

ya know its weird we do have some contractors from the ukaraine that are all kinds of jacked, hmmm maybe ill ask em...eh i donno if i trust them tho.
you ever go to the turkish truck drivers there to get whiskey?

[Sean24]

haha naw my pops keeps a steady supply of the JD for everyone over here

[JOHN RAMBO]

LOOK AT ME. I NEED NO SUPPLIMENTS. MY DIET CONSISTS OF KILLIN JAPS AND TRICEPT DIPS

[Sean24]

i didnt know tricep had a T on the end of it

[FlawlesS kolors]

READ the forums tons of smart HUGE people there who will tell u exact steps to juice as safe as u can.....

www.bodybuilding.com

[Little D]

so being here in iraq and havin a shitload of time to do nothing i been going to the gym with one of my buddies for 2 hours 6 days a week, i started off at 225 and now im down to 196 i used to be MAD skinny but then started drinking and blew up like a balloon which really helped me in a way because i can stay big but not fat, ANYWAYS my question for the people who really workout what suppliments do you take? im taking THERMOGAIN by muscletech and then a cycle of THERMOSHRED, and its really working ive noticed increased stamina and muscle mass and ive only been using it 2 months, i started benching 170 and havent benched in 2 years and now im up to 210 once. my main question is has anyone used anything else BESIDES creatine to get good results? lemme know :bouncy:
when hewent over their he was 150 pounds of puss
when my brother came back from iraq he was 220 punds of muscle

but im still bigger 230 pounds of muscle can bench about 350 pounds can squat about 780 pounds im gonna get some pics up

[Little D]

tribulas is good as it helps your body produce testosterone (spelling)

also protein helps with muscle recovery same as zinc.........


andro stack is good aswell but it is banned here in Australia (damn)

but the most important thing is your diet, everyones diet will be diffrent as peoples genetics are diffrent.... u just need one that will suit your needs..

if you want you muscles to recover in like 3 hours eat raw liver it has tons of zinc in it so you can workout for 6 hours and eat raw liver and get back to lifting in 3 hourstust me it works

[BigDawg99]

i noticed big gains in animal stack and animal pack together

I too noticed good gains from Animal Stak.i also used Creatine and No2 for the longer pump.

[CHAIN_REACTION1]

d-bol works great with a stack of test..... :wideeyed:

[fabes]

he would be just fine with just test.

[Sean24]

when hewent over their he was 150 pounds of puss
when my brother came back from iraq he was 220 punds of muscle

but im still bigger 230 pounds of muscle can bench about 350 pounds can squat about 780 pounds im gonna get some pics up
god damn....what are you taking lol. im hoping to be at 300 within the next year

[fabes]

when hewent over their he was 150 pounds of puss
when my brother came back from iraq he was 220 punds of muscle


70 pounds? :bs: