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ibb88
02-18-2006, 06:28 AM
Sorry not many pick ups guys but everyone out was practicing so it was a little hard to get someone to video. LOL. I got a few better ones though that did not get on. I was a little higher on those and I felt I was right but was told my back end was near scraping so that scared the crap out of me. But I think I am getting familiar with where the bp is and I think that height was where I needed to be. I think I have felt it but my nervousness drowned everything out pretty much. Hey, i keep wobbling from side to side. How do I stop that? I am presently at 3k rpm. I think I need to idle up to 3500 or 4k because when I do get the bike up and i dont give it gas the idle does not carry it. What do you guys think? Also explain exactly what you use the brake for doing this stunt? Do you completely release clutch? And body position please explain. Do I try to stand straight up like I am walking or what? A guy came out and he had his bike like 11:30 and rocked it some to 12 when he was coasting doing the slow coaster. He was the smoothest I have seen. Stock gearing, honda, engine was low but he did have it idled to about 3k he said. Should I be like him doing them? The first video is me of course. LOL The second is him. I got stunna but he has not given me permission to release him yet. First one is me, second is dude.

http://www.youtube.com/?v=Vha9q4lVD4A

http://www.youtube.com/?v=Nw97c-Okdm4

Busa_boy_02
02-18-2006, 03:52 PM
i set my idle to about 4000 rpm and run about 10 psi in the rear tire. the less tire pressure the more stable the bike is. if your really trying to learn do what i did, go to www.stunterschool.com, pay the the 30 buck. its helped me out tremendousily.

ibb88
02-19-2006, 12:27 PM
Come on u pros, tell me something about my technique etc. Thanks.

louisvillerider
02-19-2006, 01:08 PM
im no PRO, but i clutch it up, and hold the gas steady...not let off....be smoothe on the gas, and easy on the break (until you need to save your ass)

Stunna
02-21-2006, 02:23 PM
Man you don't need any permission from me to put my vids up. I'm a learner too. So go head and put up what you got. I didn't think anyone was taping me that night but i wanna see that.

CrTcHRkTRcR
02-21-2006, 02:30 PM
stunna forward him the pm's i sent you.. that way he can stop makin these fuckin threads... here's my critique, u're not high enough, u're choppy, and not using brake correctly.. u wobble cuz u chop, turn your idle up as high as you possibly can.. bp is when the forks are parallel with the ground.. clutch it up hard, catch it with brake, let off the gas, and tap the brake to keep it at bp, wa la

frequent_crash
02-21-2006, 02:50 PM
stunna forward him the pm's i sent you.. that way he can stop makin these fuckin threads... here's my critique, u're not high enough, u're choppy, and not using brake correctly.. u wobble cuz u chop, turn your idle up as high as you possibly can.. bp is when the forks are parallel with the ground.. clutch it up hard, catch it with brake, let off the gas, and tap the brake to keep it at bp, wa la


man you make it sound so easy...was la

CrTcHRkTRcR
02-21-2006, 02:58 PM
^ once you get it, it is easy, and you'll be like damnit, i shoulda been doin this all along.. it just has to make sense in your head first.. crank th eidle, don't be scared of it,, and learn to tap the brake, and u're golden, your body naturally moves to correct wobbles n such

Z-UNIT
02-21-2006, 03:30 PM
+1 dont ride the brake, u gotta do light taps, and yes turn ur idle to about 3-3500k, clutch it up and let off the throttle, when u do this the bike shud still wnt to go back wards, give the brake a light light light tap, and use gas to correct, ull get it ur real close

TongWoo
02-21-2006, 03:35 PM
+1 dont ride the brake, u gotta do light taps, and yes turn ur idle to about 3-3500k, clutch it up and let off the throttle, when u do this the bike shud still wnt to go back wards, give the brake a light light light tap, and use gas to correct, ull get it ur real close
Mr. Zach-Unit has good advice.

Be SMOOOOTH on the gas... and go ahead and cut down that pipe before it catches.

Stunna
02-22-2006, 03:35 PM
stunna forward him the pm's i sent you.. that way he can stop makin these fuckin threads... here's my critique, u're not high enough, u're choppy, and not using brake correctly.. u wobble cuz u chop, turn your idle up as high as you possibly can.. bp is when the forks are parallel with the ground.. clutch it up hard, catch it with brake, let off the gas, and tap the brake to keep it at bp, wa la

I've already sent him all the PMs

Stunna
02-22-2006, 03:50 PM
Problem is: when people know how to do something, it is automatically easy to them so they forget about what they been thru to learn that. I got plenty of advice, i don't stop remembering them 24/7 and learn pretty quick compared to the average. The thing is it's not possible for someone who never tried a slow wheelie before to come out there and do as most guys say: clutch it up then catch it wit the break. Sounds so freaking easy but when you on a 400 pds unicycle reflexes speak first because you not comfortable with a position such as a 12.
The only guy that gave me good advice was Crtchr. Cause he told me to learn idle wheelie first and find my balance point then start slowing them down. It makes a lot of sense cause now i that i found my balance point days, i can hold a wheelie way longer than before and can focus just on the brake. I feel more and more comfortable that i'm not scared about looping anymo and can start learning brake control. So if IBB has trouble that's because he is still learning and he's not used to slow stuff yet just like me. Tapping the brake ain't as easy as it sounds. I know it takes a lot of practice to learn it and PATIENCE. So just saying let off the throttle and use the brake is not helping at all to be honest. There many steps before that like excellent throttle control, getting used to 12s so we won't panic and jump off the bike, knowing how to clutch it up right at balance point...
I got this friend i just talked to last night who started stunting with me. He got brake control on lock now: how? Simple he told me that all he would do when he get out there to practice is clutch the bike up and tap the brake to bring it down. It doesn't have to be past BP or at BP cause he would crash if the bike go over. So he would that 100 times for days to the point it was naturally done by his foot. Now that's what i call good advice for learning brake control.

PrettyBoy Stuntz
03-17-2006, 08:02 PM
the thing is everyone has their points... Ive been posting with crtch to all of ibbs post since hes been around. Everyone asks for all theses tips and advice and were giving you the advice, but simply put everyone wheelies diffrently and there is no set way to say ok do this, this this and this and bam youre gonna wheelie. stunting is hard and if it wasnt everyone and their mom would be doing it. Stunna your boy is right about brake control when i started thats all i did was clutch up hit the brake and i spent countless hours on a 50 falling and falling and falling. I just get annoyed cause this kid is telling everone since day 1 he is killing the highways, if he can kill the highways he should be able to know how to slow a wheelie down. Heres my adive, get over of being scared thats the number one thing everyone has to get over. Secondly crank the idle way way up, when you get better youll turn it down. Come to a stop and be sitting down with your left foot on the passenger peg, clutch up and as the bike comes up stand up in the staggard position, then SMOOTH throttle, if your brake control sucks clutch it then hit the brake, get used to the motion. NOW GO PRACTICE

ibb88
03-20-2006, 03:15 PM
I just get annoyed cause this kid is telling everone since day 1 he is killing the highways, if he can kill the highways he should be able to know how to slow a wheelie down. Heres my adive, get over of being scared thats the number one thing everyone has to get over. Secondly crank the idle way way up, when you get better youll turn it down.

Dude you are DEAD WRONG. EVERYONE I know around here that can do wheelies even the king around here says he cant do it. And this dude wheelies so long you get sick of riding behind him. Dude if you came off the highways from wheelying and was able to do it you are a special breed. Yea I got chicken wings right now but even without them it would not be any easier. If you are @#$@#5ing annoyed disregard my posts. I am annoyed that someone would say such an idiotic thing. Like you said if it was so easy stunting then everyone would be doing them. I know quite a few people that can wheelie their butts off but can't slow wheelie to save anyone's life. As for the highways, I have not wheelied on the highway since last summer but can still pop it up and carry it. Thing is I put my time and years in with wheelying like that to the point its second nature. You probably are that way with stunting but dont knock the next man because he did not accomplish it as fast as you did. GEESH, some people.

halliwood
03-20-2006, 03:50 PM
well Im just now learning and the first couple times I went out I was barely bring it off the ground and I mean barely, then last night I said screw it and listen to what some ppl have been telling me to try, which was clutch it from a stand still, so I put one foot on the ground and brought it up, well I still dont have it down, but I have more control over it, and I can bring it up more and more each time, so just get it time, and try different things, and soon you'll find the one that you like, and it'll be much more fun, and you'll not really worry about how good you are at it, you'll just be happy riding the way you want to ride.


btw I didn't watch the video, but Im sure you're already better then I am, so just have fun and learn your own way.

ibb88
03-20-2006, 07:36 PM
+1 dont ride the brake, u gotta do light taps, and yes turn ur idle to about 3-3500k, clutch it up and let off the throttle, when u do this the bike shud still wnt to go back wards, give the brake a light light light tap, and use gas to correct, ull get it ur real close


This was exactly what happened when I crashed. I had idle up to 3500. I was using no throttle and yes the bike slowly creeped on back on me. It felt so good and I was bewildered thinking I had hit the sweet spot and was going to coast and BAM on back it went. I never even attempted to use the brake. But now that I have crossed that spot, now I know. I can't wait to get back out.

tonyholes.cov
03-20-2006, 08:50 PM
the balance point is very small. I started out doing fast wheelies and now I am determined to get the slow stuff down because it is better for my health. I don't think losing it at 10-15 mph will hurt near as bad as 60-65mph. But I will tell you this...I don't know anyone who stunts that hasn't lost it. Now that your crash is out of the way I bet you are less scared. right?

ibb88
03-20-2006, 09:59 PM
the balance point is very small. I started out doing fast wheelies and now I am determined to get the slow stuff down because it is better for my health. I don't think losing it at 10-15 mph will hurt near as bad as 60-65mph. But I will tell you this...I don't know anyone who stunts that hasn't lost it. Now that your crash is out of the way I bet you are less scared. right?


Yea man its like I know what I need to do now because I have been there. Just waiting on parts to get in so I can get back out there.