CBO and handbrakes

[D Wiz]

ok, first off ill say my fav riders are CBO and darius. and also i know CBO hates, despises, detests handbrakes. to each his own, i agree when you can do a trick that requires or is thought to require a handbrake w/o one, it makes you more skilled and smoother.
CBO... i know you got love for darius and vice versa, but here is why i started this thread. not to talk smack, but just something i always wondered.


Why are you so quick to hate on handbrakes but when darius hooks one up and loves it you kind of "show it some respect." Is it because of who he is? or is it cause you realize instead of hating it, you realize you can actually make your bag of tricks bigger.

you always hate em, but here on this stuntlife thread you say "pee on handbrakes.... cant knock it till i try it..... you can hook one up on my bike this winter."



here, look at your post, you post liek 3 under darius first post

http://www.stuntlife.com/forums/showthread.php?t=33067

remember, this aint to start trouble, just curious why you sya what you do and why teh opinion changes when darius has one.


edit: BTW, street sessions was fire, i have to order anotehr one, i went back to my home country Colombia and left it there, people are going bananas over the "blonde skinny white kid" :D

[danny]

My opinion on handbrakes?!? Well I really don't give a s**t if you have it or not. As long as you could ROC some nice stunts its all good with me.

[RedlineJimmy]

Simple fact is if you are not rocking a hand brake consider yourself already way behind the game. For those not going to events or competitions it dosen't matter anyways because they just wish to be a "Hometown Hero" and nothing more. Also, I think it is funny when people say "It's OK if you are rocking crazy combos, hichchair circles, etc". Obviously it is going to take time and practice just like anything else in life to get to that point...it's not going to be an instant transition once you install the handbrake.

I don't have one currently, but will be installing one in the near future. For those that wish to be hometown heros and knock others...so be it. Yet, for those that are constantly trying to push the game and help make it excell...Props!

[D Wiz]

aaaight CBO
i heard what i wanted to hear, and i mean what i was hoping to hear as in "its a touchy subject." i was just curious tahts all.

i know you aint leaving this game, and lemem know when you gonan holal at the tri state area NY NJ CT, i know d-unit is from jersey, i hear what you say about street and we all know darius is just so damm tech :p

aaight 1

[D Wiz]

i feel that "go all out, street style" you possess. i fuck aound in lots, but love doing steet shit, i love the love you get, girls love taht shit, and its dope being "that guy" i feel you on teh undergroundness part.

[RedlineJimmy]

The street scene is always fun, but in time the tickets and suspended licenses gets old real quick(been doing it since 98'). Obviously if you intended to put out a successful video you have to include street footage. So keeping your street skills up to par is a most. Keep thinking about old school days and that is were your skill level is going to stay. It's not about making it to the X-Games or winning any events...it's about raising the bar and keeping your skills up to date.

[Mike_3sick6]

I recently got a 'brake.. I'm already smooth as chit... but looking to be smooth as ice! Ya' feel me? The handy is a tool to make myself look as professional as possible.. I'm talking SMOOOOOOOOTH. You G's get that?? Let me re-iterate.. SMMMOMMOOOOOTH OPERATOR.

Watch some UK footage.. those cats are bar non KILLING it. I know US has the potential, we just havent grasped the concept of being a totally a in yet out of control rider yet. Maybe I speak for myself, but that how I feel.

Basically I dont want hate comming my way cause I decided to open up my game to a new level. And a handy is JUSt that... a new level.

[MikeM]

I dont hate them, but Im not plannng on getting one soon. I think the only tricks u need to use the brake on are idle tricks. If your doing idle tricks without your right foot on the peg, then rock the handbrake. If you just want to get smoother, just practice more.

[MikeM]

ps. I dont care what the circumstances, but a handbrake on a quad is fukkin weak. Why even bother?

[BIG-D]

ps. I dont care what the circumstances, but a handbrake on a quad is fukkin weak. Why even bother?

ya, wtf? thats just plain stupid. I agree with ya on the wanting to be smoother part. Get your ass out there and practic more...dont take the easy way out.

[nos96f22]

ya, wtf? thats just plain stupid. I agree with ya on the wanting to be smoother part. Get your ass out there and practic more...dont take the easy way out.

i dont know if this is true or not but i hear that e-dub fom outermost isnt rockin a hand brake...is this true... he does some crazy tank shit to not have a handbrake... he's definetly not bieng left behind

[RedlineJimmy]

i dont know if this is true or not but i hear that e-dub fom outermost isnt rockin a hand brake...is this true... he does some crazy tank shit to not have a handbrake... he's definetly not bieng left behind


That rumor is certaily "FALSE". Watch guys like E-Dub, Emrock, Joe Brown, Darius, Merk and then come back here and say you don't want/need a hand brake. If you still say that your just plain in denial and trying way to hard to be that "different" guy.

[D Wiz]

That rumor is certaily "FALSE". Watch guys like E-Dub, Emrock, Joe Brown, Darius, Merk and then come back here and say you don't want/need a hand brake. If you still say that your just plain in denial and trying way to hard to be that "different" guy.

i know and we all that darius is WAY at teh top of this game, he rocks a handbrake, i think street or not hands down it makes the bag of tricks bigger, i dont think theres any contesting that

[Rick Nasty]

bottom line is handbrakes are only going to help your wheelies!!!!!!

most people rocking handbrakes are only wheelie wonders anyways

subtract wheelies from the game and you got??????????

jc is gay for gettin one

i may next year, but until then THEM SHITS IS GAAAABAGE

[TongWoo]

I hear a lot of people sayin that a handbrake alters the form and function of a bike and that it is cheating cause it allows you to learn and keep from crashin your shit. Cages allow us to learn without totally demolishig our bikes. Denting the tanks alters our bikes to make highchair shit easier, sprockets allow us to save our asses with more engine brake. Steering dampers help save our asses. When is the line drawn as to what goes too far?

[TongWoo]

C'mon, folks. Post up I want to hear what y'all think about the statement above :rolleyes:

[StuntRagz Chris]

i personally could give a shit either way but it is more impressive watching someone do tricks with out a handbrake that most riders need a handbrake to do.

example, and Jimmy i am sure you seen this at Lakeland.

When Jacob was scraping seat standers and flamingos at decent speeds and used the bike to bring him of the bar. A lot of people assume he is rocking a HB.

on another note
Mr Rick Payne, if you want to impress me do a stoppie old school by sticking your foot in the back of the tire area :D

[gixxer_mark]

i don't stunt but i'm of the opinion that ANYTHING that will help you increase or fine tune your game is a GOOD thing.... i say gear it, add a break, dent a tank, bolt on a cage and start learning.... fuck, i used to think a thumb break was bullshit on the race track but then i discovered the subtle breaking power of a thumb break will actually help settle your bike for a corner and drop your lap times because you can be easier on the break with a thumb than a foot.... my 2 cents

[RedlineJimmy]

i personally could give a shit either way but it is more impressive watching someone do tricks with out a handbrake that most riders need a handbrake to do.

example, and Jimmy i am sure you seen this at Lakeland.

When Jacob was scraping seat standers and flamingos at decent speeds and used the bike to bring him of the bar. A lot of people assume he is rocking a HB.

on another note
Mr Rick Payne, if you want to impress me do a stoppie old school by sticking your foot in the back of the tire area :D

Yep, but some tricks out there just require a handbrake and also increase your bag of tricks during events or shows. Who are we trying to impress anyways? The only ones that really even knows about handbrakes are hardcore racer's and fellow stunt riders.?. Those two combined are "maybe" 20% of the market that are out there buying teams videos and watching the events/shows. So pulling off nice smooth tricks with a handbrake is going to impress the 80% of spectators and video purchasers that are drawn in by large events and Video distribution companies like Impact and X-Factor.

I am willing to bet that with in 6 months time the new company formed about 4 months ago Full Throttle Inc. (http://www.fullthrottleinc.net/) is going to be as popular as compaines like Racing905 and Freestyle Ingenunity in this sport. Bill at Full Throttle is a great guy and has developed the perfect handbrake. Pretty soon it is going to become a standard installation just as the larger sprockets and cages are.

[BIG-D]

Bill at Full Throttle is a great guy and has developed the perfect handbrake. Pretty soon it is going to become a standard installation just as the larger sprockets and cages are.

I agree with you Jimmy...Bill is the man and knows his shit. Definetley cares about his customers!

[RedlineJimmy]

thats the thing about you Jimmy you think everybody is trying to be something different. Whats wrong with being yourself.

The same argument can go towards all the Gothic people out there acting like everyday is Halloween. They are being themselves, yet at the same time trying to make that bold statement that they are different from everybody else. It's all just a matter of self-image. I am not knocking them...just using them as an example.

Now after that being said let me go be behind some more in the game. Having a hb wont make or brake my career. I make street vids and could careless about whos got this or whos got that. Gimme a camera and 5 guys that can power wheelie and we will make the hottest street vid on the market.

I'm not sure what to make of this statement :confused: . I have said multiple times that street game is a must to create a good selling video and have yet to see one without street footage. So I am not sure why you think yours is so special becuase it's on the street.?. However, variety of tricks is also a must in order to have successful sequel(s) to your original. You keep saying that you are not in it to make money, yet you have put out two videos and sell your own merchandise like many teams do. Most of us knows that the profits are not going into your own pocket, but helps create revenue to better promote your team and become known in the industry by producing more videos and merchandise in the future. At least that is how it acts for our team...purchase shirts/videos....sell shirts/videos....purchase shirts/videos with revenue made....sell shirts/videos....purchase shirts/videos with revenue made....sell shirts/videos....it's really a never ending process. The only ones in this game that are actually putting money in there pockets are those doing well on video sales with the help of large distribution compaines selling thousands of copies. I am thinking you "possibly" have ill feelings towards Impact and X-Factor as they will not distribute your video(s)...just a theory.?. Wasn't that the main reason for making the 2nd one to have all original music in it to provide proof of music rights...just another theory.?. We were in the same boat and was told to remake it with 100% legal music and they will distribute it. After putting months into it I just said F-it and will just put all the efforts into creating a sequel that is 100% legit. The first one started out just for promotional purposes anyways and for the most part it worked. Finally after 2yrs we are now in the process to creating "Southern Chaos II...Bike Nights". More about that later as I have already gone WAY off topic.

* I hope you know I am not hating or dissing, just a friendly debate trying to pass time while stuck at work...at the same time trying to prove valid points :cool: .

[StuntRagz Chris]

[QUOTE=RedlineJimmy]Yep, but some tricks out there just require a handbrake and also increase your bag of tricks during events or shows. Who are we trying to impress anyways? The only ones that really even knows about handbrakes are hardcore racer's and fellow stunt riders.?. QUOTE]

your right only a few are impressed with out the use of one because they know the difficulty. Everyone else just wants to see some sick tricks.

[KevDog]

who really cares...if u want one have one and if u dont want one dont get one and just stfu about it...
simple as that.

[Jope]

who really cares...if u want one have one and if u dont want one dont get one and just stfu about it...
simple as that.

isn't it time for you to go play GTA??


here's my take on the subject, different riders have different goals in this industry, some are in it just for fun, others for money and there's the ones that want to really take this shit to the highest level possible, therefore, they all will use or not use a handbrake to their own convinience or likes, take Cbo and Darius as an example, Darius sees a tool in a HB that will expand the amount of tricks he can do and this will help him take this to the next level as he is a pioneer of the sport, Cbo dislikes it or hates on it cuz it's not street, because street is what he believes in and that's the goal he's trying to reach, to keep it STREET, he's not trying to add tricks to his bag or trying to take this sport to the highest level, therefore a handbrake is against his believes and not something he can/would use to better his game, and then there is the average Joe that's into stunting cuz he loves doing wheelies, it's in the average joe wheelie king where it doesn't really matter if he has one or not, if it helps him do better tricks or be smoother at them cool fine, and if he chooses not to have one or can't afford one, THAT'S COOL TOO, overall, a handbrake in my eyes is a TOOL you can use or hate on it depending on what your take on the sport is, love it or hate it, it's always gonna be there and there's no reason to worked up over it.

[StuntRagz Chris]

with all this said...Handbrakes on sale $199.00+$6 shipping priority mail. Heres a pic.

[Peyton101]

with all this said...Handbrakes on sale $199.00+$6 shipping priority mail. Heres a pic.
Nice time to make a plug! Hahahahah

[KevDog]

isn't it time for you to go play GTA??
NAw im couldnt think of anything else to put there, i had to change my last one.

[CantGetRight]

cbos been doing this long enough to say hes from the old school, which is cool in an al bundy sort of way.
i dont know about you but nothing would make me happier than to see a handbrake on cbos bike. get with the times man ;)

[StuntRagz Chris]

Nice time to make a plug! Hahahahah

and you know this MAN!!