Where did santa come from

[Kunty]

When did this little story about a fat man who likes cookies and flys raindeer and sneaks into your house at night to leave gifts start, and why, someone reasearch this for me and let me know ....

thanks :smirk:

[SickF*ck6969]

HA

[D-WRECK]

:rotfl: :rotfl: :rotfl:

[Kunty]

I also wanna know why hes not dead yet :wonder:
and the stockin thing , why put stuff in socks i dont get that either


and how does he get around the whole world in one night , i'm not stupid i know about time zones but i just dont think thats realistic


I refuse to lie to my children about this shit :headache:
I'm not lettin some fat fuck in a red suit take the credit for buyin my kids cool shit, if i do the santa thing in my house my kids are gettin socks and clothes from he nothin cool i want the credit for that .....

[D-WRECK]

:wonder:

[Kunty]

:wonder:

No more stupid pictures if u dont have a vaild answer for me dont post :sigh:

[D-WRECK]

merry christmas :turtle:

[BeckyB]

I also wanna know why hes not dead yet :wonder:
and the stockin thing , why put stuff in socks i dont get that either


and how does he get around the whole world in one night , i'm not stupid i know about time zones but i just dont think thats realistic


I refuse to lie to my children about this shit :headache:
I'm not lettin some fat fuck in a red suit take the credit for buyin my kids cool shit, if i do the santa thing in my house my kids are gettin socks and clothes from he nothin cool i want the credit for that .....
oh good god just play along with it...you loved it and your kids will to :yes:

[Kunty]

oh good god just play along with it...you loved it and your kids will to :yes:


My kids are gonna be the ones goin around tellin all the other kids they are gay b/c they believe in santa just to make them cry....I will teach them well :yes:

[BeckyB]

My kids are gonna be the ones goin around tellin all the other kids they are gay b/c they believe in santa just to make them cry....I will teach them well :yes:
yup, i remember between my older sister and some stupid biotch at school they ruined it.... :null:

[Kunty]

yup, i remember between my older sister and some stupid biotch at school they ruined it.... :null:


Ya its no good to lie to kids about it , I'm still pissed at my parents ...

Make me go have my picture taken with some fat guy at the mall every year WTF who waks up one day and thinks hmmm i wanna be a mall santa....guy must be a diddler :eek:

[BeckyB]

for gods sake, it's xmas, carry on the tradition....you're kids will think they are ummm jewish or those other people that don't celebrate it i don't know how to spell it, so i'm not even going to try...you know those people that are with the witness stuff.....
umm anyways, i bought 2 xmas presents today....one being for a certain girl, and the other one for someone else :D

[Kunty]

for gods sake, it's xmas, carry on the tradition....you're kids will think they are ummm jewish or those other people that don't celebrate it i don't know how to spell it, so i'm not even going to try...you know those people that are with the witness stuff.....
umm anyways, i bought 2 xmas presents today....one being for a certain girl, and the other one for someone else :D


I am gettin you and the kids all one gift i think but trust me u will love it...Oh and i will still get you that movie too :yes:

[BeckyB]

I am gettin you and the kids all one gift i think but trust me u will love it...Oh and i will still get you that movie too :yes:
don't worry about it...i got you something different than i had said i was going to, but i saw it today and thought of you, so i got it..hehe, i'll mail it out either on tuesday or on next tuesday....plus cds..this other one i'm making you is going to be off the hoooook...GANGSIGN :blinky:

[Kunty]

Ok this thread just went off topic so back to the matters at hand...

[BeckyB]

The history of Christmas dates back over 4000 years. Many of our Christmas traditions were celebrated centuries before the Christ child was born. The 12 days of Christmas, the bright fires, the yule log, the giving of gifts, carnivals(parades) with floats, carolers who sing while going from house to house, the holiday feasts, and the church processions can all be traced back to the early Mesopotamians.
Many of these traditions began with the Mesopotamian celebration of New Years. The Mesopotamians believed in many gods, and as their chief god - Marduk. Each year as winter arrived it was believed that Marduk would do battle with the monsters of chaos. To assist Marduk in his struggle the Mesopotamians held a festival for the New Year. This was Zagmuk, the New Year's festival that lasted for 12 days.
The Mesopotamian king would return to the temple of Marduk and swear his faithfulness to the god. The traditions called for the king to die at the end of the year and to return with Marduk to battle at his side.
To spare their king, the Mesopotamians used the idea of a "mock" king. A criminal was chosen and dressed in royal clothes. He was given all the respect and privileges of a real king. At the end of the celebration the "mock" king was stripped of the royal clothes and slain, sparing the life of the real king.
The Persians and the Babylonians celebrated a similar festival called the Sacaea. Part of that celebration included the exchanging of places, the slaves would become the masters and the masters were to obey.
Early Europeans believed in evil spirits, witches, ghosts and trolls. As the Winter Solstice approached, with its long cold nights and short days, many people feared the sun would not return. Special rituals and celebrations were held to welcome back the sun.
In Scandinavia during the winter months the sun would disappear for many days. After thirty-five days scouts would be sent to the mountain tops to look for the return of the sun. When the first light was seen the scouts would return with the good news. A great festival would be held, called the Yuletide, and a special feast would be served around a fire burning with the Yule log. Great bonfires would also be lit to celebrate the return of the sun. In some areas people would tie apples to branches of trees to remind themselves that spring and summer would return.
The ancient Greeks held a festival similar to that of the Zagmuk/Sacaea festivals to assist their god Kronos who would battle the god Zeus and his Titans.
The Roman's celebrated their god Saturn. Their festival was called Saturnalia which began the middle of December and ended January 1st. With cries of "Jo Saturnalia!" the celebration would include masquerades in the streets, big festive meals, visiting friends, and the exchange of good-luck gifts called Strenae (lucky fruits).
The Romans decked their halls with garlands of laurel and green trees lit with candles. Again the masters and slaves would exchange places.
"Jo Saturnalia!" was a fun and festive time for the Romans, but the Christians though it an abomination to honor the pagan god. The early Christians wanted to keep the birthday of their Christ child a solemn and religious holiday, not one of cheer and merriment as was the pagan Saturnalia.
But as Christianity spread they were alarmed by the continuing celebration of pagan customs and Saturnalia among their converts. At first the Church forbid this kind of celebration. But it was to no avail. Eventually it was decided that the celebration would be tamed and made into a celebration fit for the Christian Son of God.
Some legends claim that the Christian "Christmas" celebration was invented to compete against the pagan celebrations of December. The 25th was not only sacred to the Romans but also the Persians whose religion Mithraism was one of Christianity's main rivals at that time. The Church eventually was successful in taking the merriment, lights, and gifts from the Saturanilia festival and bringing them to the celebration of Christmas.
The exact day of the Christ child's birth has never been pinpointed. Traditions say that it has been celebrated since the year 98 AD. In 137 AD the Bishop of Rome ordered the birthday of the Christ Child celebrated as a solemn feast. In 350 AD another Bishop of Rome, Julius I, choose December 25th as the observance of Christmas.

[BeckyB]

The Twelve Steps of Christmas
Take pleasure in the trappings of Christmas. Be merry like the songs say, revel in the tinsel and the glitter and the sparkle and sing the old songs for all the joy that's in them and the memories they bring back. But to touch the real Christmas- to feel the true spirit of the season- look to your own heart and find all the secret treasures that they're there to give.
1. HONESTY...he sees you when you're sleeping...
2. HOPE...for yonder breaks a new and glorious morn...
3. FAITH...away in a manger...
4. PEACE...bless all the dear children in thy tender care...
5. RENEWAL... Lo how a rose e'er blooming from tender stem hath sprung...
6. HUMILITY...fall on your knees, O hear the angel's voices...
7. GOODWILL...let the whole world send back the song which now the angels sing.
8. LOVE...how silently, how silently, the wondrous gift is given...
9. PERSEVERANCE...we got into a drifting bank, and whee we got upsought...
10. WONDER...O holy night, the stars are brightly shining.
11. GLORY...Angels we have heard on high, sweetly singing o'er the plains, and the mountains in reply, echo back their joyous strains.
12. JOY...fields and floods, rock, hills, and plains repeat the sounding joy.

[Kunty]

YAY becky i love you , :spin: :yes: :hyper: :bouncy:

[BeckyB]

The Dutch introduced the Christmas Stocking to America. During the 16th Century children in Holland would leave their clogs by the hearth. They would fill them with straw for the reindeer or "donkey" as the reindeer were called. A treat for Santa was left in the house near the warm fire. In return "Sinterclass" would leave the children treats. Later the clogs would become stockings and the Saint known to all as Santa Claus.

[BeckyB]

for more interesting info on christmas please visit this website...
http://www.allthingschristmas.com/traditions.html







ps. beckyb always comes through....YAY BOOOY
/gangsign :eek:

[Kunty]

for more interesting info on christmas please visit this website...
http://www.allthingschristmas.com/traditions.html







ps. beckyb always comes through....YAY BOOOY
/gangsign :eek:



HAHA i love ya .....that pic is great :rotfl:

[BeckyB]

HAHA i love ya .....that pic is great :rotfl:
buick says i need to know one for the middlewestside gang..but i don't know any :sigh:
i look like a hardcore gangsta right hur :dopey:
gangsign :wonder:

[Buick]

for more interesting info on christmas please visit this website...
http://www.allthingschristmas.com/traditions.html







ps. beckyb always comes through....YAY BOOOY
/gangsign :eek:
Got your nose crab gang.

[damthman]

buick says i need to know one for the middlewestside gang..but i don't know any :sigh:
i look like a hardcore gangsta right hur :dopey:
gangsign :wonder:

nice wood stove if i must say :offtopic:

[BeckyB]

nice wood stove if i must say :offtopic:
thanks, it's gangsta :bouncy: