New to stunting. Could Use pointers!!

[chriscj99]

Hey people,
So Im really new to all of this. I just got my first bike a couple of months ago (2004 GSXR 600). Im finding it difficult and frustrating to do tricks, which is to be expected. Im firstly trying to wheelie. I've been able to get baby wheelies, but nothin past 10 oclock. Ive been tryin to gas it up around 9000 rpm, but it just seems to lack the balls. Ive been told to clutch it up by dumpin the clutch around 5-7 rpm, but it sounds like the transmission is about to bust on me. Any pointers on bringin up the front? I also wanna try other stuff, but I really dont wanna risk layin down my new bike. Kinda wanna keep it in good shape. So would anyone recommend a bike to practice on? Like where I could find a decent used bike, or maybe a stunt bike that someone would wanna sell? Thanks again

Christian(CJ)

[f3joel]

i recommend getting a used dirt bike and learning the clutch and rear brake, if you wanna do tricks your gonna have to learn the clutch, powering it up will put you at 2 high of an rpm unless you shift while your already up, but that is harder to learn than clutching.

[sheetone]

Not to sound like an ass, but if it's your first bike (and it's a nice one for sure), I would concentrate on learning the bike and basic riding techniques first. Also, trying to learn power wheelies is a waste of time, as none of the skills used in power wheelies translates to anything else.

Keep that gixxer 6 as your "bling-bling" bike. Go find a beat down F2/F3 to learn on.

in my opinion, slow and steady progress is the way to go, so start with the basics (1st gear, sit down, clutch wheelies) and go from there.

good luck

[sheetone]

oh yeah, make sure you wear your gear!

[chriscj99]

Yeah, Ive pretty much got basic riding down. Just got that itch to try out some stuff! But I've looked around a little but have only found nicer bikes upwards around $6-$9K. I've also been told to try messin around on a dirt bike, but Im thinkin thats a totally different ball park. Thanks though. I'll def keep the gear on.

[JunTypeR]

I started off with power wheelies and it is not the best way to go. yeah they can look good to those that dont know. I was doing them all last summer and now that I cluch them up the wheelies are longer and much higher.....Should have listened earlier....Clutch it.

[LUCKY]

same here i use to power up, but i learnt to clutch up and stuntin became a shit load more fun...

and dont worry about your box with clutch ups it will be fine on a 04 gix600
i recomend clutch up from a stand still and let the tyre presure down to about 20 psi (rear that is)

but then again it depends on what u wanna do. if you wanna bust high speed freeway wheelies, our you wanna start rocking slow shit,, if you can hold a wheelie at 10 oclock like you are saying, you should have no worries learnig to slow them down.
but its up to you in what u want out of your riding,
p.s if you wanna stunta get a dirt bike first there cheap light and doesnt matter if you drop them 100 times and keep that gix blinging... :check:

[dHERZ]

50 cc dirt bikes help with balance point and brake control as well as a quad

[LUCKY]

50 cc dirt bikes help with balance point and brake control as well as a quad

i 2nd that

[JunTypeR]

learn to set the bike down softly...I let one fall down today and broke the fucking front bracket.

[naz_omc]

dont come down to hard from wheelies, the upper fairing stays, r garbage, ive been thru 3. cheap cast alum

[chriscj99]

Cool,
I appreciate all the feedback. Looks like a dirt bike is a good way to go to get started. I'll just keep looking and seein if I can find something. But as far as clutchin it up, when I dump the clutch around 7 rpm, do I keep accelerating so that the front end gets up? or is it supposed to bounce up immediately? I've tried poppin the clutch round 8 rpm, but it just seems to buck a lil, but not get up. Should I stiffen the suspension in the back? It is still set from stock.

[PTL]

Cool,
I appreciate all the feedback. Looks like a dirt bike is a good way to go to get started. I'll just keep looking and seein if I can find something. But as far as clutchin it up, when I dump the clutch around 7 rpm, do I keep accelerating so that the front end gets up? or is it supposed to bounce up immediately? I've tried poppin the clutch round 8 rpm, but it just seems to buck a lil, but not get up. Should I stiffen the suspension in the back? It is still set from stock.
work on the timing of the clutch .sound like ur not hittin the throttle hard enough off the pop.give it more gas before u pop the clutch and as its commin up start letting off(not all the way).the higher u get it the less throttle u need to keep it up.try not to clutch it so high in the rrr's, 5.5-6.5 should be plenty on a stock 04' 6..be carefull and take baby steps to start .after basic wheelies then u can start gettin stupid.get used to the pop and its cake from there.

P.S. post a vid and we can help alot more.no music raw footage so we can hear the bike.

[JunTypeR]

That is what a bunch of my friends did for me. We all went out so it wasnt like the camera was just on me, but it helps a lot cuz even though it seems high the front wheel might only be 3 foot off the ground. Video is a great way to learn

[chriscj99]

Sweet, I'll give those tips a try. After it stops raining here in Tampa. I'll try to get one of my buddies to film me, even though they are constantly advising me NOT to try anything. But how are you supposed to learn if you dont try!! Thanks and I'll put up some vids when I can.

[forcefedfreak]

That is what a bunch of my friends did for me. We all went out so it wasnt like the camera was just on me, but it helps a lot cuz even though it seems high the front wheel might only be 3 foot off the ground. Video is a great way to learn


Yeah video really steps up your game. You typically feel higher than you really are, while learning anyway. Until you get it all figured out.

when I learned to cllutch standups, I was so nervous I was going to fliip over, and I watched the vid of me, and I was like holy shit I can go so much higher than that.

[AzN~BoI_585]

Hey whats up man Im pretty new to stuntin also. From what everyones told me is to start with staggered stand ups, using the clutch. its just practice practice practice. Ur lucky ur down in FL where u get riding weather year round Im up in NY with this garbage snow. Wear ur gear (atleast helmet and gloves) good luck.

[chriscj99]

Hey whats up man Im pretty new to stuntin also. From what everyones told me is to start with staggered stand ups, using the clutch. its just practice practice practice. Ur lucky ur down in FL where u get riding weather year round Im up in NY with this garbage snow. Wear ur gear (atleast helmet and gloves) good luck.

Thanks man. It finally stopped raining and I got the chance to try dumpin the clutch. Kinda got the hang of it, but Ive come down pretty hard a couple times. Needless to say I dont think I can have kids anymore! :ouch: But Im also kinda timid cause I feel like Im raggin the shit outta the bike. Like I said, I dont wanna mess up my new 04 GSXR too bad. Im actually about to buy a 125cc dirtbike. That should help. but I just cant help tryin in the meanwhile! Thanks a lot guys. I'll keep tyring and checkin yall out in the site.
Christian

[StuntRagz Chris]

Yeah, Ive pretty much got basic riding down. Just got that itch to try out some stuff! But I've looked around a little but have only found nicer bikes upwards around $6-$9K. I've also been told to try messin around on a dirt bike, but Im thinkin thats a totally different ball park. Thanks though. I'll def keep the gear on.

2 options

goto stuntragz.com and buy basic wheelies from dummies and learn from the master Kyle Woods.

second if you want a older bike to learn i have a 2001 929 stuntbike for 4500.00
complete with cage and bar. i am in jacksonville

[Jay Carnes]

Not to sound like an ass, but if it's your first bike (and it's a nice one for sure), I would concentrate on learning the bike and basic riding techniques first. Also, trying to learn power wheelies is a waste of time, as none of the skills used in power wheelies translates to anything else.

Keep that gixxer 6 as your "bling-bling" bike. Go find a beat down F2/F3 to learn on.

in my opinion, slow and steady progress is the way to go, so start with the basics (1st gear, sit down, clutch wheelies) and go from there.

good luck


you look like you have downs sydrome.

[korno]

[QUOTE=Jay Carnes]you look like you have downs sydrome.[/QUOTE


its so true a retard giving advice

"wear ur helmet so u u dont bite ur ear off"

[Jay Carnes]

[QUOTE=Jay Carnes]you look like you have downs sydrome.[/QUOTE


its so true a retard giving advice

"wear ur helmet so u u dont bite ur ear off"


so many jokes so little time

[c r0ck 1]

hold on you just started riding and you said you got all the basic riding skills up.. sory man thats inpossible. it takes at least 2 seasons of riding to get your reaction time right.. some people it takes longer.. in my opinion most people thing they are getting it up 10 o clock when they are really gettin it up like 7 0clock.. when you are on the bike and you start pullin wheelies you think you are bringing it up but you are pulling the weight off the forks and teh bikes front is coming up but the wheel is not really coming up.. it might seem that way.. thats what happened with me i thought i was gettin it up until i videoed my self.. saw that than went to power clutching.. i was gettin it up to like 7 oclock and i was suprised cause it feels like you are gettin it up but you are really not.. now i clutch it and am just starting to get it up past 8 oclock or 9 oclock but the hardest thing it riding it out.. i mainly bring it up and put it back down for now until i get the hang of it.. it takes time and dont rush it.. i mean are you in a rush to break a bone? take it easy. youll get it.. but it takes a long time to get the hang of a bike and riding in general , hopefully you wont learn like i did crashing in traffic on a main st in my town... destroyed my bike.. but i got a new one now.. i was thinking i had riding down and i didnt .. i was riding with a wife beater and german helmet (not stunting) and i got side swiped.. reason.. my reaction time was not built up and i could not react correctly for the situation.. i hope this helps man..

[ProZaK]

sory, inpossible( it takes at least 2 seasons of riding to get your reaction time right.. some people it takes longer.)...


umm... i was going to edit more of that post.. but what a waste of time..


and from the time i got on a bike , it took me 2 months to learn ape hangers... maybe your just slow ?

[c r0ck 1]

umm... i was going to edit more of that post.. but what a waste of time..


and from the time i got on a bike , it took me 2 months to learn ape hangers... maybe your just slow ?


first of all you dont have to edit anything... to gain the quick responce time in trafficn and riding.. being big headed gets you killed... so you are saying from the first time yo touched a bike you were doing ape hangers in 2 months..BULLSHIT.. sory man your a lyer. now if you are saying that you had prior experience riding and i took you 2 months from when you started stunting than i can agree on that... NO PROBLEM AGREEING ON THAT. but first time on a bike and 2 months ape hangers NOT. And yes i might be slow but im not ina rush to break bones.. id rather look slow now and be alive than look good now and be in a wheelchair.. :)

[D-WRECK]

yeah

[BigRed875]

hold on you just started riding and you said you got all the basic riding skills up.. sory man thats inpossible. it takes at least 2 seasons of riding to get your reaction time right.. some people it takes longer.. in my opinion most people thing they are getting it up 10 o clock when they are really gettin it up like 7 0clock.. when you are on the bike and you start pullin wheelies you think you are bringing it up but you are pulling the weight off the forks and teh bikes front is coming up but the wheel is not really coming up.. it might seem that way.. thats what happened with me i thought i was gettin it up until i videoed my self.. saw that than went to power clutching.. i was gettin it up to like 7 oclock and i was suprised cause it feels like you are gettin it up but you are really not.. now i clutch it and am just starting to get it up past 8 oclock or 9 oclock but the hardest thing it riding it out.. i mainly bring it up and put it back down for now until i get the hang of it.. it takes time and dont rush it.. i mean are you in a rush to break a bone? take it easy. youll get it.. but it takes a long time to get the hang of a bike and riding in general , hopefully you wont learn like i did crashing in traffic on a main st in my town... destroyed my bike.. but i got a new one now.. i was thinking i had riding down and i didnt .. i was riding with a wife beater and german helmet (not stunting) and i got side swiped.. reason.. my reaction time was not built up and i could not react correctly for the situation.. i hope this helps man..2 seasons? where do you come up with that figure? Is it in the Motorcycle handbook? :bouncy:

[ProZaK]

first of all you dont have to edit anything... to gain the quick responce time in trafficn and riding.. being big headed gets you killed... so you are saying from the first time yo touched a bike you were doing ape hangers in 2 months..BULLSHIT.. sory man your a lyer. now if you are saying that you had prior experience riding and i took you 2 months from when you started stunting than i can agree on that... NO PROBLEM AGREEING ON THAT. but first time on a bike and 2 months ape hangers NOT. And yes i might be slow but im not ina rush to break bones.. id rather look slow now and be alive than look good now and be in a wheelchair.. :)

riding in traffic takes common sense... and yes.. the first season i touched a streetbike i was doing apehangers... and its LIAR not lyer.. jesus..

some poeple learn faster than others.. one of my buddies who raced moto X twelved a 900RR the first DAY he rode a streetbike EVER.. so dont tell me im a liar.

[Big R 508]

LIAR !!!:razz:

[ProZaK]

hahaha.... yep you caught me.. haha... oh and korno's tricks are all photoshopped cause hes only been riding for 6 mos and hes pro... thats impossible too.. LOL get real..

its not the months, or years... its the time and effort...

a week of 8 hour hard sessions.... works alot better than " learning to get your reaction time down in traffic" LMAO

[D-WRECK]

^^^^^^ VERY TRUE










I STILL SUCK A STUNTIN

[Big R 508]

I am not even stuntin' the nigga with the bling blang blaow and the ridiculous rims.

[lill_Pierce]

youre gay sicka and for the retard with the great spelling fuck off.

[chrisnof4i]

2 seasons? where do you come up with that figure? Is it in the Motorcycle handbook? It's a fact.

People with Downs Syndrome have slow reaction times.

[BigRed875]

It's a fact.

People with Downs Syndrome have slow reaction times.aahhh....I missed teh window licker sction in the appendix :clyde:

[Jay Carnes]

2 seasons? I havn't even been riding 2 full seasons. This is funny shit. So do I have a genious stunting IQ?

[Big R 508]

youre gay sicka and for the retard with the great spelling fuck off.

I thought you were just a 'tard, but you really must be retarded.

[D-WRECK]

tard retard its the same thing :blabla:

[Z-UNIT]

first of all you dont have to edit anything... to gain the quick responce time in trafficn and riding.. being big headed gets you killed... so you are saying from the first time yo touched a bike you were doing ape hangers in 2 months..BULLSHIT.. sory man your a lyer. now if you are saying that you had prior experience riding and i took you 2 months from when you started stunting than i can agree on that... NO PROBLEM AGREEING ON THAT. but first time on a bike and 2 months ape hangers NOT. And yes i might be slow but im not ina rush to break bones.. id rather look slow now and be alive than look good now and be in a wheelchair.. :)



god how are u guna stunt if evertime u ride ur pussy leaks cuz ur fraid of gettin hurt. suck it up and go big or go home

[MikeM]

Prozak, didnt you start on an f4i aka cheater bike?

[Big R 508]

tard retard its the same thing :blabla:

A rapid survey of any definition group on this site will disclose a monstrous paucity of grammar.

[lill_Pierce]

A rapid survey of any definition group on this site will disclose a monstrous paucity of grammar.

Retard, I bet you feel dumb..... :rotfl:

[D-WRECK]

ok so you say EVERY ONE that stunts took them 2 years to get use to the bike and pull off big shit...

i agree with every one that agrees with prozak, ive seen people buy there first bike take 3 days to get use to it and do some sick shit.

and i agree with z-unit 100% of what he justed said, ive been riding for 2 years and just learned how to 12, not due to getting use to it just scared of dropping it and falling off.

i never rode shit when i fist started only took me couple of months to get use to it and doing bp wheelies with in a year. i still suck at stuntin

[Big R 508]

Retard, I bet you feel dumb..... :rotfl:

I don't know what makes you so dumb but it really works.

[c r0ck 1]

ok as i have learned some people learn faster .. i guess if you deticate yourself to jsut stunting all day you can get it fast.. i didnt mean to offend anyone... i have not deticated myself to just stunting... i have a nice bike .. maybee if i had just a stunt bike i would not be scared fo droppin mine.. as i have said im here to learn and i have learned that you can with alot of hard work you can learn to somewhat stunt fast.. NO INSULTS INTENDED...But for the record FUCK YOU>>>>>>> :bouncy:

[BigRed875]

I don't know what makes you so dumb but it really works.
:comedy: :comedy: :booty: now that is funny...


on another note...wtf is with all the penis smileys :boner:

[ProZaK]

ok as i have learned some people learn faster .. i guess if you deticate yourself to jsut stunting all day you can get it fast.. i didnt mean to offend anyone... i have not deticated myself to just stunting... i have a nice bike .. maybee if i had just a stunt bike i would not be scared fo droppin mine.. as i have said im here to learn and i have learned that you can with alot of hard work you can learn to somewhat stunt fast.. NO INSULTS INTENDED...But for the record FUCK YOU>>>>>>> :bouncy:


There you go.. thats more like it, im not a LYER... ( Liar ) I just dedicated my self to stunting and put in a ton of hours. Lots of crashes and parts i went through in the couple months when i was learning. I just wanted you to know it IS possible. I'm the " go big or go home " type. some are , some arnt, but unless you go big, you can try all you want, but its going to take a long time to get anywhere unless you put some risk and effort in.

[c r0ck 1]

There you go.. thats more like it, im not a LYER... ( Liar ) I just dedicated my self to stunting and put in a ton of hours. Lots of crashes and parts i went through in the couple months when i was learning. I just wanted you to know it IS possible. I'm the " go big or go home " type. some are , some arnt, but unless you go big, you can try all you want, but its going to take a long time to get anywhere unless you put some risk and effort in.
your right... ima try to put alot of time into the stunting thing.. when i first got my prety yellow and black gsxr i was cryin if i got a scratch on it.. after i started watching stunt usa vids and talkin to cbo ... im gettin crash cages (btw if you know a good site at a good price for the cages post em) but hey its one wheel this year all dayyyyyyyyyyyyyy!

[LooseSprocket]

your right... ima try to put alot of time into the stunting thing.. when i first got my prety yellow and black gsxr i was cryin if i got a scratch on it.. after i started watching stunt usa vids and talkin to cbo ... im gettin crash cages (btw if you know a good site at a good price for the cages post em) but hey its one wheel this year all dayyyyyyyyyyyyyy!
GO TO STUNTRAGZ.COM

[c r0ck 1]

GO TO STUNTRAGZ.COMthanks

[LooseSprocket]

thanks
no problem bro..

[MikeM]

hey cockbag.......

[Z-UNIT]

yes....