bikerboy
03-24-2005, 09:32 PM
I was driving from San Diego after seeing my family and whatnot and made it to New Mexico. Well, to make a LOOOOONNGNGGG story short, the truck blew a plug.
I had NO idea that this is one of ford probs. It blew out the plug due to faulty threads in the head. So it made a complete hole in the head. No threads. So I finally got it to the dealer (after being up driving from last Sat at 6:30 am to Mon at 3am. I was going looney, I was pissed and hungry. And almost got robbed.
Well, the Ford place diagnosed it. I thought a vacuum hose fell off or something. Nope. The plug was the prob.
Well, the repair was $3400. Now if you go that far you might as well do the other head. Well the price tag on that without parts for the other besides a gaskit was $3,700. Not including tax, and any valves or valve guides, spring, lifters, etc. The other head cannot be repaired by ford. You can put a helicoil but they'll pop out. VCould be 6 months, 1week, 2yrs. But when it does you have to spend another $1500 to have them remove the head all over again.
So, now that one side has a new head the bottom end may not be able to withstand the compression of the head on its rings, cranks, etc.
Now here's where it gets fukked up.
They said I can be out of here by Tues. Tues led to Wed, led to thurs, and now they say Friday.
Class started for me on Monday. So I missed an entire week. Pure bullshit. Now I am seriously behind and missed a lab. You miss one physics lab, you fail. So now I have a dilemma. Have to work that out with the professors.
So yesterday, they said, why don't you just replace the WHOLE motor, with 2 new upgraded heads that have the glitch fixed on the original stock one. Then they say this AFTER they already pulled the head off COSTING $85/HR labor. So far that costed 10.7hrs labor X $85/hr.
Yea, really.
They are like, you can get the complete motor not only like the head having 1yr warranty but the entire motor will be guaranteed and warranted for 3yrs/36,000miles.
The price tag? $5300. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK. Now I still owe $3400 on it left. If I do this then it will be a piece of mind that it is and will be problem free from me. Not only that. They have a motor in town. The head would have to be sent in and then the parts that go on it would have to all be placed back on. It would be cheaper on labor to juist pull one motor and put the other in.
So I toldf them to do it. Next, they send the radiator out, it'lklk come back the same afternoon to after its power flushed and checked for cracks.
They DON'T call. I have to go into the damn place and 2hrs from closing tell me "Sir, the price we qouted you will be different. Your radiator cannot be used. If we put it back on we can't warranty the motor. So you have to buy a new one".. I say " HOW MUCH IS THAT!!!!"
He says" we can't use any. There is one in town but its an aftermarket. If we put it, we can't warranty it. "
"SO HOW MUCH WILL IT COST?" I say. He says " $370.."
OK, DO IT AND I WANT TO LEAVE tomorrow in the morning. Put the motor in now and quit bullsh!tting and get on it. Then tomorrow, take 30min, put the damn thing in and I am going to leave. \
I have been stuck out here for over a week. Hell, my spring break was last week. I could have used up 2wks for it. But oooooh noooo. I had to get stuck out here.
Anyhow, I thought of a few things. what do you think...
A. Keep the truck until the warranty runs out, then sell it with the new buyer knowing it'll last as it'll only have 36000 miles on the motor.
B. Keep it for a year and sell it with the warranty so they will have a piece of mind and will be more inclined to buy it.
C. Trade it for a 2005 GSXR 1000 and have them pay me $4000. Then I have a 2005 Gixxer 1000, use the other money to pay off the $3400 I owe to the bank and be debt free from vehicles...
D. Drive it til the wheels fall off. Fukk it. Save money in the meantime, then in due time go out and buy a Nissan Titan (I had a FGord before this and replaced the motor 1X and trannie 2X, plus $1000s in other repairs. ) No more Domestic for me. They don't care about american jobs and welfare anyway. They put isuzu motors in the diesel chevy's, Ford has mexico building cars/trucks insetad of like the old days in Michigan, and so on.
The nissan Titan Will last for an EASY 200,000 miles. Then by that time the price on them will be ALOT lower and will be more affordable...
E. Maybe I haven't thought of something and you give me your opinion on what you'd do....
I have to go. I am at Kinko's and they are charging me 20c/min. And at this point I do NOT have the money to waste. I'll be back in a few to possibly several days....
LATER
I had NO idea that this is one of ford probs. It blew out the plug due to faulty threads in the head. So it made a complete hole in the head. No threads. So I finally got it to the dealer (after being up driving from last Sat at 6:30 am to Mon at 3am. I was going looney, I was pissed and hungry. And almost got robbed.
Well, the Ford place diagnosed it. I thought a vacuum hose fell off or something. Nope. The plug was the prob.
Well, the repair was $3400. Now if you go that far you might as well do the other head. Well the price tag on that without parts for the other besides a gaskit was $3,700. Not including tax, and any valves or valve guides, spring, lifters, etc. The other head cannot be repaired by ford. You can put a helicoil but they'll pop out. VCould be 6 months, 1week, 2yrs. But when it does you have to spend another $1500 to have them remove the head all over again.
So, now that one side has a new head the bottom end may not be able to withstand the compression of the head on its rings, cranks, etc.
Now here's where it gets fukked up.
They said I can be out of here by Tues. Tues led to Wed, led to thurs, and now they say Friday.
Class started for me on Monday. So I missed an entire week. Pure bullshit. Now I am seriously behind and missed a lab. You miss one physics lab, you fail. So now I have a dilemma. Have to work that out with the professors.
So yesterday, they said, why don't you just replace the WHOLE motor, with 2 new upgraded heads that have the glitch fixed on the original stock one. Then they say this AFTER they already pulled the head off COSTING $85/HR labor. So far that costed 10.7hrs labor X $85/hr.
Yea, really.
They are like, you can get the complete motor not only like the head having 1yr warranty but the entire motor will be guaranteed and warranted for 3yrs/36,000miles.
The price tag? $5300. FUUUUUUUUUUUUUUK. Now I still owe $3400 on it left. If I do this then it will be a piece of mind that it is and will be problem free from me. Not only that. They have a motor in town. The head would have to be sent in and then the parts that go on it would have to all be placed back on. It would be cheaper on labor to juist pull one motor and put the other in.
So I toldf them to do it. Next, they send the radiator out, it'lklk come back the same afternoon to after its power flushed and checked for cracks.
They DON'T call. I have to go into the damn place and 2hrs from closing tell me "Sir, the price we qouted you will be different. Your radiator cannot be used. If we put it back on we can't warranty the motor. So you have to buy a new one".. I say " HOW MUCH IS THAT!!!!"
He says" we can't use any. There is one in town but its an aftermarket. If we put it, we can't warranty it. "
"SO HOW MUCH WILL IT COST?" I say. He says " $370.."
OK, DO IT AND I WANT TO LEAVE tomorrow in the morning. Put the motor in now and quit bullsh!tting and get on it. Then tomorrow, take 30min, put the damn thing in and I am going to leave. \
I have been stuck out here for over a week. Hell, my spring break was last week. I could have used up 2wks for it. But oooooh noooo. I had to get stuck out here.
Anyhow, I thought of a few things. what do you think...
A. Keep the truck until the warranty runs out, then sell it with the new buyer knowing it'll last as it'll only have 36000 miles on the motor.
B. Keep it for a year and sell it with the warranty so they will have a piece of mind and will be more inclined to buy it.
C. Trade it for a 2005 GSXR 1000 and have them pay me $4000. Then I have a 2005 Gixxer 1000, use the other money to pay off the $3400 I owe to the bank and be debt free from vehicles...
D. Drive it til the wheels fall off. Fukk it. Save money in the meantime, then in due time go out and buy a Nissan Titan (I had a FGord before this and replaced the motor 1X and trannie 2X, plus $1000s in other repairs. ) No more Domestic for me. They don't care about american jobs and welfare anyway. They put isuzu motors in the diesel chevy's, Ford has mexico building cars/trucks insetad of like the old days in Michigan, and so on.
The nissan Titan Will last for an EASY 200,000 miles. Then by that time the price on them will be ALOT lower and will be more affordable...
E. Maybe I haven't thought of something and you give me your opinion on what you'd do....
I have to go. I am at Kinko's and they are charging me 20c/min. And at this point I do NOT have the money to waste. I'll be back in a few to possibly several days....
LATER